I got a flyer in the mail about an REI sale with big discounts on the touch screen Garmin Oregon. I think its just over $200. The price makes it tempting. Does anyone know whether you can download via USB cable maps sets from products like TOPO US 100K, Topo US 24K West, Topo Canada v4, etc?
I say about time. I had recieved notice from some online ( forgot which one ) gps/software dealer of such a new product from Garmin. But could never find any such link at Garmin.com so didn't think anymore about it. I was under the impression that it was going to be the whole western US but now see from your link that in is only several states in the west.
I am sure I will make the purchase when my state becomes available but wish they would have done this years ago. Just my 2 cents worth. Team sidewinder. Routeable roads AND trails!!! Since we 'probably' can't read (I'm only guessing) the microSD card in MapSource, it would imply the routable feature is available in the GPSr unit, unlike Topo 24K National Parks that only allowed you to route trails in MapSource. I wonder how routable it is; such as being able to navigate on the road with turn-by-turn guidance. Somehow I doubt it would have that ability or we wouldn't have the need for a City Navigator DVD anymore.
If you look at the upper right in the link under 'product compatibility' you'll see every GPSr mentioned has an asterisk after it (which indicates a limitation) except for the Colorado series. I don't have a Colorado unit, so would anyone care to guess what part of Topo 24K U.S. Won't function on a none Colorado unit? Limited Compatibility Some Garmin units may only access limited features when used with certain MapSource products. In these cases, an asterisk has been placed by that product. 'Limited capability' may mean that a unit may be able to draw all the map features from the MapSource software, such as roads, lakes, nav-aids, depth contours, wrecks, etc., but the interactive capability of the maps may be limited. For example, you may not be able to 'find nearest marinas' or look up additional text about a specific mapping feature.
We encourage you to e-mail firstname.lastname@example.org if you have any questions about the compatibility of certain units and MapSource products. Those are some pretty weak screen shots they have provided. Edited June 30, 2008 by coggins.
Model Display type Display size Rated battery life (hrs) Weight with batt- eries Pre-loaded detailed maps Ability to add maps/ storage Accepts custom maps Elec- tronic compass Paper- less geo- caching Turn by turn Waypoints /Routes Trackpts. I notice the chart doesn’t include the Garmin GPS76 or GPSMAP76 – is this because they’re discontinued or because they don’t have the high sensitivity chip? Do any manufacturers publish sensitivity data? I notice that my MAP76 seems to be more sensitive than the plain 76. Is it just my imagination? The plain 76 needs a relatively clear sky, while the MAP76 seems to tolerate considerable tree cover. What about refresh speed after zoom in/out.
The biggest beef I have with my MAP76 (other than not being color) is the very slow (to me) speed to show the full detail of the zoomed screen. Manufacturers also seem to be reluctant to provide this information. Will you be navigating coastal waters?
If so, the Garmin GPSMAP 78sc might be worth checking out. You can read my review of the landlubber’s 78s (not sc) at I’m reluctant to recommend the first generation Colorado and Oregon models, due to visibility problems, especially in bright, on the water conditions.
The Oregon 450 has an improved screen, and could be a good choice. Unfortunately, most of the free maps are topo maps, not marine charts. Where do you boat?
Inland, coastal, Caribbean? It might help to know that. These newer units do allow you to use Garmin custom maps though, so free marine charts can be used, but they are limited to 100 tiles, which could quickly be an issue in a boat.
Some of the new units, like the 78 series, have a lot of internal memory, so you may not need an SD slot. Others are more limited. Hope this helps.
Feel free to follow up. HELLO, I’m glad to have found you. I need to buy a gift (an expensive one) for my son who will be travelling, flying, walking a lot in cities and some hiking. He will be mostly internationally in Tokyo, New Zealand and much in South America as well as US. I was first attracted to this idea when I saw Mike Adams, the health ranger, checking the lattitude/longitude coordinates – [which I love – is there a name for that function?] with an etrex.
–I just didn’t know there were SO many choices. The geo taggin on the camera sounds very nice. Can you give guidance? (no pun intended) Mary. Oh boy, you’re testing my memory about how older units functioned.
It may be that saved tracklogs don’t save the timestamp. So as long as you don’t go over 10K track points, its okay. Otherwise, any Garmin unit’s tracklog should have a time stamp. For better reception, get a unit with a high sensitivity chipset.
The Foretrex 301 might be a good option. Other ones to look at include the eTrex Venture HC or Legend H. For more tracklog storage, you would need a unit with a memory card slot, like the Legend HCx. Hope this helps! I am looking for a handheld that I will use for marking entrances to caves, mines, and other misc.
I will be mainly in the central USA and lots of places have heavy vegitation. I am not worried about being within inches just close to the sites.
I would like to have route trace, preferably an altimeter, SD card slot, regular batteries, compass, and color screen. I have been looking almost exclusively at Garmin allthough I have seen almost all of them.
I was considering the 60csx, colorado series, or the oregon series, after all the research I have done myself I was strongly considering the 60csx, which has been my top choice for a while. For christmas my wife surprized me with a Garmin etrex legend hcx with an 8gig micro sd card. Before I open it she said to make sure its the on I want. I would appreciate you input and thank you for your time. Hi Rich, Sorry to bother you with stupid questions but Im finding it really difficult knowing what to get.Im from Australia but am and will be living in Western Samoa for a number of years. I enjoy locating caves and old ruins and therfore love the idea of overlaying google maps or scaned paper maps to the hand held unit. But is the custom maps really that good and completly free as they sound?
Could you explain a little on that please. Im not too concerned about it having games and such as its just for me. Is there much advantege between the 450 and 450t for the price? As in, are there even any topo maps for western Samoa? As Samoa is in the Pacific is there a version that I need to get in reguard to the map coverage etc? Is there a place that you suggest I can get one at a good price but will still work in Western Samoa and Australia in reguard to maps (also taking into consideration Australia and Samoa is 240V AC power)?
With out sacerficing screen detail is there any other models that may suit me better for the price range? Once again sorry for the billion questions.
But I need help. Thanks heaps Rich for your help. Yes from my understanding there is a Austrlian version of the 450t with topos of Australia and New Zealand. Mute - The Raven 2008 on this page. So just to get this straight in my head. If I was to buy a 450 from the US as they are cheaper, the world base map should be the same in it and therefore work just as well, but the 450t is a different story as the US version would only have the US map. Am I thinking right? Apart from the topo maps is there any other functions that you miss out from the 450 to the 450t?
There’s alot of discussion about the two different chipsets for the 60Csx. I’m having issues with my 2 YO Garmin updating the live track over a previously laid track. It seems to freeze, or take forever to update.
I’m using it for Search & Rescue dog training and so need the live track to update at the pace of a fast dog (at a human jogging pace). I love my 60Csx, but am willing to update to a GPS with faster processor if that’s what it takes to be very accurate with walking/running the previously laid track (logged track).
Also, I do view the track zoomed in fairly close and in 20 degree weather, if that make a difference. Got an unusual one for you Rich – I’m looking for a GPS for backcountry snowmobiling, specifically, shuttling riders with ski/snowboard gear up trails in the north Lake Tahoe area. I’m looking at the Garmin 400t, but a few concerns: 1. It’s got topo maps, but is it likely to have topo maps of places outside of state parks? Some of the places I’m going have state-maintained hiking trails in the vicinity, some don’t 2. The 3d rendering is great when in the mountains and a major reason that I’d part with $300+, but, if I’m loading 3rd-party maps, will 3d rendering still kick in? Have you ever tried the touch screen with gloves / glove liners on?
I know most smartphone touchscreens won’t work unless you have special gloves, which might be OK, but if I wanted capabilities similar to the 400t but non-touchscreen controls, what would you recommend? Love that area!
Yes, it has preloaded 100K topos of the entire US. But I’d go with the 450 instead. You’ll get a brighter screen and no preloaded topos, but there are some great free 24K topos. 3D isn’t worth it. But if I’m not mistaken, it has to have a Garmin map loaded, which might steer you towards the 450t. I *think* that third party maps will display 3D if there is a Garmin map loaded in the background.
A search for 3D here may help 3. The screen is resistive, not capacitive, so it works okay with gloves. In my testing, it worked well enough except with fleece gloves. The Garmin GPSMAP 62s is a good non-touch alternative. Thanks Rich, that’s great feedback! I think I’m sold on going for 24k topos (free or otherwise) after seeing the side by side shots here (from an Oregon 400t) That stream detail really matters for trying not to ride into a creek! A few follow-up questions: 1.
I chanced across an Amazon review mentioning that when using a custom map, the HCx was far slower to render than higher end handhelds (62s, as you suggested). Do you know if there’s a speed difference between the 450 and 62s? I’m going to be stopping and consulting this thing a lot, so even a 30% or so speed difference would clinch the decision for me. The 3D function – I’m sure it’s mostly a gimmick, but I have this very specific use case of using it to find good fall lines in unfamiliar territory.
Do you think it has value then? When using the 3D function is it possible to move your viewpoint to somewhere other than where you’re standing? Semi-related: do you know of a desktop application that would let you visualize topo maps in 3d? Google Earth maybe? Are you taking about panning the map? I haven’t noticed a speed difference, and I do own and use both. I just checked them side by side and while there is a redraw lag on both, its only a second or so.
I don’t see this when moving BTW, only when panning. What do you mean by fall lines? Close contours?
I would also suggest going to a store that has a “t” unit with preloaded maps and check it out in person. It may work better in your terrain. A Google image search for Garmin Oregon 3D will give you some examples. Not very easily.
I just tried it and its hard to move any distance at all. Yes, you can do it with Google Earth using a product like. My favorite program is TopoFusion though. To answer one of my own questions (#4): Google Earth has high resolution elevation data, but mysteriously insists on showing you satellite imagery superimposed on the 3d model, with no way to turn it off. If you want to replace the satellite imagery with topo lines, use this KML file to replace it with what you see in Google Maps in “Terrain” mode (elevation lines, roads including forest service roads). This is just about perfect, although it soaks up memory like a sponge.
Note Garmin Basecamp theoretically also does this, but: 1. It’s flaky with detecting 3d capability on PCs – didn’t work for me even though I meet the specs, and I see other similar reports 2.
Works fine on a Mac, but I don’t know how to load any of the free maps from gpsfilesdepot.com, so you’d have to buy Garmin maps. Rich I need some advice. I am currently looking to upgrade my Garmin nuvi205 to one of the following.the nuvi 1390t, 1450, or the 1690t.
Download Anime Gintama Season 2 Sub Indo Movie here. I can get a re-furb 1690t for pretty cheap, but I have read nothing but terrible costomer reviews for that model. I like the 1450, but not too sure about the HUGE 5in screen.
I really like the 1390t but it lacks a couple few features of the other 2 models. Most important features I want are “junction view” and speak street names. I have a lifetime map update card to install for whatever unit I pick. Which do you prefer?
I have been researching and comparing handheld GPS units until I can’t see straight. I am in the process of creating a trail system for horseback riding and what I want a unit to do is to help me get from Point A to Point B and onwards in an area that is the least steep and driest for riding a horse on (i.e.
I have narrowed it down to the GPSmap62 or the Oregon 450. The tree canopy I am hiking in and marking is really dense sometimes.
Do these units have the new super sensitive antennae? I have tried an old E-trex and man, I couldn’t get a signal anywhere. I like the idea of making a Custom Map, and the Birdseye View thing (watched the YouTube Info-interesting!) Or is there another unit I should really take a look at for what I am trying to do?
I will be taking it with me riding, so it should be rugged in case I fall off and land on it (just kidding). Thanks for your input. I thought zumos had a ride sharing feature. Is that just routes? There are vehicle power adapters for the 62 series. You might want to read P8 and P9 here. I believe these apply to the 62 series as well Any handheld will have a learning curve, BTW.
I’d look at the 62 series or the Oregon 450. The 60CSX is older and while it may meet your needs, I don’t find the interface quite as user-friendly as the new models. Plus, the new models have some improved track navigation functionality This may also help You’ll probably want to add City Navigator maps, so figure that into the cost. Nevertheless, you should be able to get out for under $500 total. It should be fine. Its broken down into several smaller files, but I have to wonder how accurate they are. The one I looked at had 833 track points for a 535 mile section.
There might be more detailed tracks out there, though it might mean cobbling together a lot of small files. Recording your own should be fine, since they can be archived to the micro-SD card. I’d suggest looking at the 62s if you can afford it though.
It wil store 200 tracks instead of 20, so if you do decide to go for more detailed tracks, you’ll probably need that. You may also find this feature useful I’m anticipating a good sale on the 62s starting later this month, but I can’t say much more than that for now. Sounds like a great trip. I’m more than a little jealous! @Denis, That track is 18,000 points, so you could split it half and it would fit fine on the 60CSx. The question is, will this level of detail satisfy you?
I suggest looking at it on a map (like TopoFusion). Its not off a lot, but you’ll see plenty of straight line track segments when you’re following a road/trail that curves. But using a track file like this will be a lot easier than rounding up detailed tracks for the entire length of the trail. Personally (and regardless of which track files you use), I’d still go for the 62s, if for no other reason than the advanced track navigation tools The sale should be back on tomorrow, BTW. Hope this helps.